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Lenny Rachitsky: recommendation

13 Nov 2022 Lenny's Podcast An inside look at how the New York Times builds product | Alex Hardiman (CPO at The New York Times)

“My advice is often don't avoid that thing, usually, but work maybe to the side of that because you don't want to work on something that doesn't matter, that's like over in the shire land.”

— Lenny Rachitsky

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Lenny Rachitsky
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recommendation
Recorded
13 Nov 2022
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Lenny's Podcast

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…I guess that's true. There's a metaphor I like to use when I give PM's advice on where to work within a company, which is there's like the Eye of Sauron, which is the number one most important thing to the CEO at that time. My advice is often don't avoid that thing, usually, but work maybe to the side of that because you don't want to work on something that doesn't matter, that's like over in the shire land. You want to be something that matters but not maybe the most important thing. I feel like you're the opposite. You're like, "Where's the Eye of Sauron focused? I'm going to go there and build stuff." That's pretty awesome. Awesome, sometimes, I'm sure there are moments too where it would be nice to chill, but I am drawn to those types of problems for sure. This feels like therapy, Lenny. I'm into it.…

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