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Lex Fridman: belief

11 Nov 2024 Lex Fridman Podcast #452 – Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

“There potentially could be laws that prevent AI systems from claiming to be conscious, something like this, and maybe some AIs get to be conscious and some don’t. But I think just on a human level, as in empathizing with Claude, consciousness is closely tied to suffering, to me.”

— Lex Fridman

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Lex Fridman
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belief
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11 Nov 2024
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Lex Fridman Podcast

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…Mm-hmm. Even though you can dismiss it, yeah, okay, that’s part of the character training. But I don’t know, ethically, philosophically don’t know what to really do with that. There potentially could be laws that prevent AI systems from claiming to be conscious, something like this, and maybe some AIs get to be conscious and some don’t. But I think just on a human level, as in empathizing with Claude, consciousness is closely tied to suffering, to me. And the notion that an AI system would be suffering is really troubling. Yeah.…

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