Keith Duggar: prediction

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…Oh, yeah. It's gotta be practical. That's why we're only giving 5 minutes. Right. First of all, the notion of being separate but part of a universe through synchronization, I think, is absolutely correct and could be unpacked in 2 ways. 1, you could say that, you know, to find a free energy minimizing solution to your dynamics, namely the path of least action, just is to evince a generalized synchrony between the inside and the outside. Generalized synchrony is also known as synchronization of chaos. So it's basically the 2 systems that are loosely coupled in the sense of dynamical systems will ultimately converge on a synchronization manifold and they will show chaotic dynamics on that manifold. That manifold is a synchronization manifold and it is being on that manifold that is the minimization of free energy. So you can talk about the free energy principle without mentioning self evidence, without mentioning Bayes, without mentioning predictive processing or even extended cognition. And you can just talk about it as a variational specifying a variational bound on the Lagrangian that specifies generalized synchronization or synchronization of chaos. You know what you're talking about is exactly this sort of separate but the same. I think quite nicely, although I don't fully understand it, recapitulated in Chris Fields' quantum treatment. So what he would talk about there is not the synchronization between the inside and the outside or me and you and everything else like me and you, but entanglement. So the principle of unitarity is just basically well you can read the free energy principle as just the principle of unitarity which just means if we stay here for long enough, for more than 5 minutes, we will ultimately become completely entangled which means classically we will be engaged in a generalized synchrony. There will literally be a synchronization of our itinerant dynamics. Dynamics. We will not become 1. We'll still have a we'll still have well, actually, Chris Fields thinks you would become 1. But we will we will be indistinguishable because we're just playing out on exactly the same synchronization manifold. So I think that's absolutely right. Your Your last question, and you had about 3 in between, was how would you practically use the free energy principle, the notion of thingness that inherits from Markov blankets practically if you're building robots? I think you're talking here about sort of physics discovery or Markov discovery algorithms, which of course, Maxwell and Jeff Beck are sort of furiously working away on to try and Assuming you didn't know anything about that stuff, I mean, how would you approach that problem? From first principles, if you had a robot and a camera, how would you partition…

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