High Signal Podcasts Evidence ledger
Method
Browse
← Back to evidence

Evidence receipt / evaluation

Published · transcript-backed

Jeremy Howard: evaluation

19 Oct 2023 Latent Space The End of Finetuning — with Jeremy Howard of Fast.ai

“5 has never read Wikipedia, for example, so it doesn't know who Tom Cruise is, you know, it doesn't know who anybody is, it doesn't know about any movies, it doesn't really know anything about anything, like, because it's never read anything, you know, it was trained on a nearly entirely synthetic data set, which is designed for it to learn reasoning, and so it was a research project, and a really good one, and it definitely shows us a powerful direction in terms of what you can do with synthetic data, and wow, gosh, even these tiny models can get pretty good reasoning skills, pretty good math skills, pretty good coding skills, but I don't know if it's a model you could necessarily build on.”

— Jeremy Howard

Source trail

Everything needed to verify it.

Speaker
Jeremy Howard
Attribution
Verified speaker
Claim type
evaluation
Recorded
19 Oct 2023
Publisher
Latent Space

Transcript context

…The thing, okay, so like PHY 1. 5 has never read Wikipedia, for example, so it doesn't know who Tom Cruise is, you know, it doesn't know who anybody is, it doesn't know about any movies, it doesn't really know anything about anything, like, because it's never read anything, you know, it was trained on a nearly entirely synthetic data set, which is designed for it to learn reasoning, and so it was a research project, and a really good one, and it definitely shows us a powerful direction in terms of what you can do with synthetic data, and wow, gosh, even these tiny models can get pretty good reasoning skills, pretty good math skills, pretty good coding skills, but I don't know if it's a model you could necessarily build on. Some people have tried to do some fine tunes of it, and again, they're like surprisingly good in some ways for a 1.5b model, but not sure you'd find it useful for anything. I think that's the struggle of pitching small models, because small is great, you know, you don't need a lot of resources to run them, but the performance evaluation is always so iffy, it's always just like, yeah, it works on some things, and we don't trust it for others.…

Stored transcript either side of the excerpt. The highlighted words are the published quote; the surrounding text is unedited source, never generated.

Search evidence