Evidence receipt / belief
Published · transcript-backedShawn Wang: belief
8 Jan 2026 Latent Space Artificial Analysis: Independent LLM Evals as a Service — with George Cameron and Micah-Hill Smith
“I did give you shit for missing fireworks, and how do you have a model benchmarking thing without fireworks? But you had together, you had perplexity, and I think we just started chatting there.”
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- Speaker
- Shawn Wang
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- Claim type
- belief
- Recorded
- 8 Jan 2026
- Publisher
- Latent Space
Transcript context
…This is kind of a full circle moment for us in a way, because the first time artificial analysis got mentioned on a podcast was you and Alessio on Latent Space. Amazing. Which was January 2024. I don’t even remember doing that, but yeah, it was very influential to me. Yeah, I’m looking at AI News for Jan 17, or Jan 16, 2024. I said, this gem of a models and host comparison site was just launched. And then I put in a few screenshots, and I said, it’s an independent third party. It clearly outlines the quality versus throughput trade-off, and it breaks out by model and hosting provider. I did give you shit for missing fireworks, and how do you have a model benchmarking thing without fireworks? But you had together, you had perplexity, and I think we just started chatting there. Welcome, George and Micah, to Latent Space. I’ve been following your progress. Congrats on... It’s been an amazing year. You guys have really come together to be the presumptive new gardener of AI, right? Which is something that... Yeah, but you can’t pay us for better results.…
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