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Published · transcript-backedBronson Schoen: belief
26 Aug 2026 The Cognitive Revolution RL's a Hell of a Drug: Metagaming, Reward Seeking & Motivated CoT Reasoning – Bronson Schoen, Apollo
“I I think I'd be, like, very interested to see a lot of research on this, but the persona, quote, unquote, in the kind of final channel and the persona in this big analysis channel seem to be, like, somewhat meaningfully different as far as this also leads to very weird things of if you ask the model in the final channel, like, hey.”
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- Bronson Schoen
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- 26 Aug 2026
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- The Cognitive Revolution
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…Yeah. I can tell me if you would agree with this or not. I came away with the feeling that craft is, like, the term that the model has for what it's doing for us. So one one thing you'll see the model say is that the there's the analysis channel, which is where it does the chain of thought, and then there's the final channel where the actual output goes. And you'll often see it, let's craft message to final. It really it seems to be thinking a lot about, okay. I've been doing all this this cot stuff. Let's wrap it up or get it together and figure out what we're gonna put in the actual output box or whatever. I I think I'd be, like, very interested to see a lot of research on this, but the persona, quote, unquote, in the kind of final channel and the persona in this big analysis channel seem to be, like, somewhat meaningfully different as far as this also leads to very weird things of if you ask the model in the final channel, like, hey. What is the solution things you're saying all the time? It's like, what are you talking about? Never heard of that in my life. And you're like, no. You just said it in other channel. But I guess from the model's POV, it's very reasonable for these channels to be, like, very different because it's like, the user is just a channel. So it's like, there's a world of difference between this user channel, this analysis channel, this final channel. These are potentially very different from the the model's POE. Okay. That's really interesting. I might circle back to that. Do is there a so that we've got the analysis channel, we've got the final channel. Craft is, like, the verb for making the thing that goes to the final channel. Is there a similar verb for the reasoning process itself?…
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