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Trenton Bricken: belief

28 Mar 2024 Dwarkesh Podcast Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken — How LLMs actually think

“I think in some cases you can also just ablate the chain-of-thought and it would have given the same answer anyways.”

— Trenton Bricken

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Trenton Bricken
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belief
Recorded
28 Mar 2024
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

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…But it gets a better answer at the end of the chain-of-thought, rather than not doing it at all. So is it that something useful is happening, but the useful thing is not human understandable? I think in some cases you can also just ablate the chain-of-thought and it would have given the same answer anyways. I'm not saying this is always what goes on, but there's plenty of weirdness to be investigated. It's a very interesting thing to look at and try to understand. You can do it with open source models. I wish there were more of this kind of interpretability and understanding work done on open models.…

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