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Ross Douthat: belief

25 Mar 2020 Conversations with Tyler Ross Douthat on Decadence and Dynamism

“I would put it this way: I think France is, in certain ways, very advanced in decadence, but it’s also a place where a lot of forces of post-decadence — whatever that may be — are sort of in play in really interesting ways.”

— Ross Douthat

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Ross Douthat
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Recorded
25 Mar 2020
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Conversations with Tyler

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…France? Why France? I would put it this way: I think France is, in certain ways, very advanced in decadence, but it’s also a place where a lot of forces of post-decadence — whatever that may be — are sort of in play in really interesting ways. It’s a place that has some of the most interesting political and intellectual debates about liberalism and post-liberalism, even though it hasn’t actually seen a far-right or far-left party take power. It’s a place that’s a particular example of the uneasy confrontation between a decadent Europe and Islam and Islamic immigration. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the great chronicler of decadence, Michel Houellebecq, comes from France. In that sense, I think France is both further advanced in its decadence, but also, therefore, more interested in and open to whatever strange things lie beyond. But that’s speculative. Are you long or short France?…

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