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Dario Amodei: belief

11 Nov 2024 Lex Fridman Podcast #452 – Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

““We discovered it, we figured it out.” But I think all things, even incredible discoveries, they almost always come down to the details.”

— Dario Amodei

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Dario Amodei
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belief
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11 Nov 2024
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Lex Fridman Podcast

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…Yeah, rumor on the street, I forget who was saying that, Anthropic has really good tooling. So probably a lot of the challenge here is, on the software engineering side, is to build the tooling to have a efficient, low-friction interaction with the infrastructure. You would be surprised how much of the challenges of building these models comes down to software engineering, performance engineering. From the outside, you might think, “Oh man, we had this Eureka breakthrough.” You know, this movie with the science. “We discovered it, we figured it out.” But I think all things, even incredible discoveries, they almost always come down to the details. And often super, super boring details. I can’t speak to whether we have better tooling than other companies. I mean, haven’t been at those other companies, at least not recently, but it’s certainly something we give a lot of attention to. I don’t know if you can say, but from Claude 3 to Claude 3.5, is there any extra pre-training going on, or is it mostly focused on the post-training? There’s been leaps in performance.…

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