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Andrew ‘Boz’ Bosworth: belief

3 Mar 2024 Lenny's Podcast Making Meta | Andrew ‘Boz’ Bosworth (CTO)

“One of the things that's pretty interesting, I talked earlier about how much, as a founder, I think especially, you have to have tremendous conviction.”

— Andrew ‘Boz’ Bosworth

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Andrew ‘Boz’ Bosworth
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belief
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3 Mar 2024
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Lenny's Podcast

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…What have you learned about giving Mark negative criticism, anything that he accepts? What have you learned about that? Mark's voracious for all information and all points of view. One of the things that's pretty interesting, I talked earlier about how much, as a founder, I think especially, you have to have tremendous conviction. You just have to. You have to have a tremendous degree of confidence. And I think Mark is somebody who is maybe the strongest willpower of a person I've ever met, just in a pure willpower sense. And so one of the things interesting about Mark is you'll give him feedback. He listens. He's not, he's a, he's a very, it's a kind person to work for. So you'll give him feedback and he'll listen. Truly. He'll most often tell you that you're wrong, why you're wrong. That's just like most often. And what will happen is it's uncanny. It's like over the course of the next like week or two, you'll just see shifts. And I don't think he's like doing it. So, you know, I've always kind of joked that like the information gets to him. So much information every day gets him. And then like at night, he like recompiles the whole world with all that information and comes back. And by the way, this is not just true about product work. In my head, I was thinking about product stuff where you're just like, hey, I think this product is doing this wrong. He's like, no, no, that's why it's not that way. And the product also have to give him feedback just on his own presence in a meeting or delivery. He'll be like, oh, well, here's why I did it that way. And then like a couple weeks later, you'll be in a similar situation and he will moderate like how he shows up. So I actually find him somebody who's really, it's really satisfying to give him feedback. It really works. It's very effective. But you do have to like take the long view on it. And he will have, the things he did, he didn't do an accident. He will have a reason why he did it in the way he did them. It's a great example of strong opinions loosely held. Yeah, that's right. It also makes me think, I think, use the compiler analogy. I'm thinking like the model training, like he's retraining his model overnight.…

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