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26 Oct 2023 Dwarkesh Podcast Shane Legg (DeepMind Founder) — 2028 AGI, superhuman alignment, new architectures

“The way I think about it is this: to have a profoundly ethical AI system, it also has to be very, very capable.”

— Shane Legg

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Shane Legg
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26 Oct 2023
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Dwarkesh Podcast

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…Right, so then how do we get to the point where it has learned them in the first place? Yeah, that's the challenge. We need to have systems. The way I think about it is this: to have a profoundly ethical AI system, it also has to be very, very capable. It needs a really good world model, a really good understanding of ethics, and it needs really good reasoning. Because if you don't have any of those things, how can you possibly be consistently profoundly ethical? You can't. So we actually need better reasoning, better understanding of the world, and better understanding of ethics in our systems. It seems to me that the former two would just come along for the ride as these models get more powerful.…

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