Evidence receipt / belief
Published · transcript-backedSimon Willison: belief
10 Jul 2023 Latent Space Code Interpreter == GPT 4.5 (w/ Simon Willison, Alex Volkov, Aravind Srinivas, Alex Graveley, et al.)
“I think as the worst thing about learning to program is figuring out how to set up a development environment and all of that junk.”
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- Simon Willison
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- belief
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- 10 Jul 2023
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- Latent Space
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…we'll do, we'll do so this weekend. Yeah. Give us, give us an update. I wanna acknowledge Shimo, I hope I'm saying your name correctly. Shamo hid. Welcome to the stage. What are your use cases for or for code interpreter, please tell us. Thanks Alex. Sorry I'm outside so I'm just stopping back and say hi. I work at OpenAI. Really been interesting here about all the use cases. I think I just wanna emphasize just from a different perspective, what I'm excited about the most is the impact on education. Like, To give you one example, you know, when, when this thing came out you know, at least a couple months back, I had my brother-in-law try the code, interpret for the first time. He did not have any background in Python or programming, and he was trying to do some financial data analysis, just using a bunch of CSVs and just within an hour the amount of stuff he was able to personally learn about data analysis, Python, and, and, you know, just got him excited about learning. You know data analysis were, was really exciting and, and I think this is gonna be very impactful for just a lot of, you know, students. That'll, you know, go through this, this process and learn run to learn to code and data analysis better not through any books, videos, but primarily through this code and interface. So really excited about the impact on education overall. I think otherwise would love to, you know, see, I, I know there were talks about creating a live manual, really excited to see that. And any feature requests that you guys have, including, you know, security bugs and any issues that you guys encounter, I think it'll be really good for the team to know as we kind of keep it trading and making this experience better for everyone. I wanna plus one the education thing. I think as the worst thing about learning to program is figuring out how to set up a development environment and all of that junk. It just solves that. Yes. And the code, it generates it's good code and it's well commented. It's like a very good way to start getting, and like I said, I've been programming for 25 years. It's taught me stuff. I've learned new things about how to do things in Python with it. So yeah, I'm, I'm really optimistic that, that for completely new programmers, I hope this can be a fantastic educational tool for them as well. And we've had many folks come up and give us a feature request Shaya Shaya, again, hoping I'm pronounce your name correctly. Many folks wanted Plugin Nexus as well, or some amount of ability to extend. I think Simon mentioned in the beginning, I was I'm not sure if you were here, that it, it was possible to upload like egg files or, or wheel files and then extend the Python can runtime and now it's no, no longer possible. And now it seems like the, the binary execution is no longer possible. So any type of other languages. So it's only Python right now, but we obviously know that there's many other developers in the world that run Node, for example you know, folks on stage here who have experience with full stack definitely some amount of Node or Deno, something like that to run the kind of that side of the developer ecosystem could be incredible. Yeah, I think no, and Deno would be the obvious extensions there. I actually wanted to ask Shamal a little bit something or something. Cuz I think right now we are very B2C in our thinking which is very much us as individual developers interacting with, with quote interpreter. Is there like a B2B use case that we should be exploring or thinking of? Yeah, good question. I think we're still in early days of thinking about what chat g BT for business could look like. I think this is something that we announced in our blog posts that're working on chat for business and, and that might include, you know some plugins, maybe quote, interpret, things like that. So it's, it's still being specked out, so it's pretty early to tell around like what, you know, how, how kind of the market will react to that. But, but for now at least it seems like, you know, that's the plan to at least rule it out and then see where it goes from there. But like, I mean, I don't, I don't understand what the difference is. Like everyone cha chatt is chatt business. Like maybe just some like privacy stuff? I think to start with. There's at some level you can think of it as more of like enterprise grade with, you know, more data security, more, more data controls, things like that. Where you can buy like licenses for entire teams and, and companies instead of like having, you know, employees pay, pay for it individually. Okay. Okay. Got it. All right. Sorry. Sorry I didn't, I didn't mean to like suddenly turn into a cross-examine. I'm just very I, I, I think we can always think about ourselves as individuals, but then also want to spend some time thinking about the B2B side, obviously, cuz you're running GTM there. Yeah. Happy to yield to someone else for questions or Yeah, feature request. So we have hands up, I wanna hear from Alex. And then and then if you have questions, first of all, we'd love to hear your use case for call interpreter. I think Shamia Shamia will also love to hear that. And second of all, if you have questions feel free to also raise them.…
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