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…Okay, we'll pop it in. I'll find the book. But the book pretty much shows that one of the maybe smartest moves that China did was going to these developing countries and saying, "We will give you 5G, really low cost. We'll bond it for 100 years, so we're not giving away for free," but guess what now? Chinese government has access to your pipes. Maybe that's not scary for some countries. For me, I'd be a little afraid. That was our pitch to the Mexican government: "You don't look at just cost; look at the sovereignty of the data, who has access, and we'll domicile this data in your country. We won't domicile it in America." They were like, "Sorry, it's too expensive," and we've seen that. We've done a couple other projects like that, not just picking on Mexico, but other countries where we're not competitive with China, not because our products aren't better. I think they're much better, but we're not being subsidized by the federal government. Presumably NATO countries, Australia?…

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