Evan Spiegel: recommendation

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…For founders that are hearing this and they're like, "Okay, I'm going to work on this," What most helped you level up in this space? Is it like coaches? Is it people around you? Is it just doing it? Just doing it is really the only way. And I remember that was really the advice one of our board members gave to me because I was so reluctant. I didn't want to do an all hands. I didn't want to do Q&A. In the early days of the company, I was like, "I'll just send an email." And he's like, "What are you doing?" He's like, "Too bad, Evan. This is your job." And I think that was really, really good advice. And so literally I was like, "Okay, fine. This is a core part of my job and what I need to learn how to do. I'm going to learn to love it. I want to love it. I want to get up there and get in front of our company and really enjoy answering all these really tough questions and digging into the business with our team." And now I really do. I've learned to really enjoy that dialogue with our team. And I learned so much from the questions that folks ask. And I love that openness. I think it's just such an important part of our company and who we are. I had Rahul Vohra on the podcast a while back, the founder of Superhuman. I don't know if this is what you went through, but he went through a transition where he loved what he was doing and then ended up being pushed by VCs and leaders to like, okay, you got to do these other things. And then like, okay, I really don't like this and I'm going to find a way to do the thing I really enjoy because that's going to reflect in so many ways across the business and help us succeed." Is that something you went through, where just like, okay, I just want to get back to the product and building?…

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