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26 Oct 2023 Dwarkesh Podcast Shane Legg (DeepMind Founder) — 2028 AGI, superhuman alignment, new architectures

“If you want a model that writes creative poetry, then that's fine because you want to be able to be very free to suggest all kinds of possibilities and so on.”

— Shane Legg

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Shane Legg
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26 Oct 2023
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Dwarkesh Podcast

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…That's interesting. So you mentioned two areas in which LLMs needs to improve. One is the episodic memory and the other is the System 2 thinking. Are those two related or are they two separate drawbacks? I think they're fairly separate, but they can be somewhat related. You can learn different ways of thinking through problems and actually learn about this rapidly using your episodic memory. All these different systems and subsystems interact so they're never completely separate. But I think conceptually you can probably think of them as quite separate things. I think delusions and factuality is another area that's going to be quite important and particularly important in lots of applications. If you want a model that writes creative poetry, then that's fine because you want to be able to be very free to suggest all kinds of possibilities and so on. You're not really constrained by a specific reality. Whereas if you want something that's in a particular application, normally you have to be quite concrete about what's currently going on and what is true and what is not true and so on. And models are a little bit sort of freewheeling when it comes to truth and creativity at the moment. And that I think limits their applications in many ways. The final question is this. You've been in this field for over a decade, much longer than many others, and you've seen different landmarks like ImageNet and Transformers. What do you think the next landmark will look like?…

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