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20 Jul 2025 Lenny's Podcast Anthropic co-founder on quitting OpenAI, AGI predictions, $100M talent wars, 20% unemployment, and the nightmare scenarios keeping him up at night | Ben Mann

“Many of the other companies in the space are growing really fast. And at Anthropic, I think we've been maybe much less affected than many of the other companies in the space because people here are so mission oriented and they stay because...”

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Benjamin Mann
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belief
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20 Jul 2025
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Lenny's Podcast

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…I have a billion and one questions for you. I'm really excited to be chatting. I want to start with something that's very timely, something that's happening this week. Something that's in the news right now is this whole Zuck coming after all the top AI researchers offering them $100 million signing bonuses, $100 million comp. He's poaching from all the top AI labs. I imagine this something you're dealing with. I'm just curious, what are you seeing inside Anthropic and just what's your take on the strategy? Where do you think things go from here? Yeah, I mean I think this is a sign of the times. The technology that we're developing is extremely valuable. Our company is growing super, super fast. Many of the other companies in the space are growing really fast. And at Anthropic, I think we've been maybe much less affected than many of the other companies in the space because people here are so mission oriented and they stay because... They get these offers and then they say, "Well, of course I'm not going to leave because my best case scenario at Meta is that we make money and my best case at Anthropic is we affect the future of humanity and try to make AI flourish and human flourishing go well." To me, it's not a hard choice. Other people have different life circumstances and it makes it a much harder decision for them. For anybody who does get those mega offers and accepts them, I can't say I hold it against them when they accept it, but it's definitely not something that I would want to take myself if it came to me. Yeah. We're going to talk about a lot of this stuff that you've mentioned. In terms of the offers do you think, is this a real number that you're seeing this $100 million signing bonus, is that a real thing? I don't know if you've actually seen that.…

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