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Dario Amodei: belief

11 Nov 2024 Lex Fridman Podcast #452 – Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

“Around 2016 or 2017, I first started to really believe in or at least confirm my belief in the scaling hypothesis when Ilya famously said to me, “The thing you need to understand about these models is they just want to learn.”

— Dario Amodei

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Speaker
Dario Amodei
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belief
Recorded
11 Nov 2024
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

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…So there’s a lot of curiosity about the different players in the game. One of the OGs is OpenAI. You’ve had several years of experience at OpenAI. What’s your story and history there? Yeah. So I was at OpenAI for roughly five years. For the last, I think it was couple years, I was vice president of research there. Probably myself and Ilya Sutskever were the ones who really kind of set the research direction. Around 2016 or 2017, I first started to really believe in or at least confirm my belief in the scaling hypothesis when Ilya famously said to me, “The thing you need to understand about these models is they just want to learn. The models just want to learn.” And again, sometimes there are these one sentences, these then cones, that you hear them and you’re like, “Ah, that explains everything. That explains a thousand things that I’ve seen.” And then ever after, I had this visualization in my head of you optimize the models in the right way, you point the models in the right way, they just want to learn. They just want to solve the problem regardless of what the problem is. So get out of their way, basically?…

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