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Benjamin Mann: belief

20 Jul 2025 Lenny's Podcast Anthropic co-founder on quitting OpenAI, AGI predictions, $100M talent wars, 20% unemployment, and the nightmare scenarios keeping him up at night | Ben Mann

“I think if we had 10 times as many chips and had the data centers to power them, then maybe we wouldn't go 10 times faster, but it would be a real significant speed boost.”

— Benjamin Mann

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Benjamin Mann
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belief
Recorded
20 Jul 2025
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

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…Let me just follow this thread on, in terms of bottleneck, this is kind of a tangent, but just what is the biggest bottleneck today on model intelligence improvement? The stupid answer is data centers and power chips. I think if we had 10 times as many chips and had the data centers to power them, then maybe we wouldn't go 10 times faster, but it would be a real significant speed boost. It's actually very much scaling loss, just more compute.…

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