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6 Apr 2022 Conversations with Tyler Roy Foster on Ireland's Many Unmade Futures
“I suspect that Douglass, who was a subtle and clever politician, learned that the parallels between what seemed to be the oppression of the native Irish and the very real oppression of Blacks in the United States were not exactly commensurate to each other.”
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- 6 Apr 2022
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…What do you think Douglass learned in Ireland? I suspect that Douglass, who was a subtle and clever politician, learned that the parallels between what seemed to be the oppression of the native Irish and the very real oppression of Blacks in the United States were not exactly commensurate to each other. The extent to which he absolutely noted that isn’t proven, but I feel that — and here I’m chancing my arm, rather — that anyone as analytical as he would have seen that what Irish natives suffered under in mid-19-century Ireland, it was nothing like what Black slaves suffered under in mid-19th-century America. Now, my last name is Cowen, and I’m Irish American. Can you tell me anything about Cowens and Irish history?…
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