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15 Feb 2026 Lenny's Podcast Sequoia CEO coach: Why it’s never been easier to start a company, and never been harder to scale one | Brian Halligan (co-founder, HubSpot)
“Steve Jobs had an interesting line, he says, "You don't work for your boss, you work for Apple.”
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- 15 Feb 2026
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…Yeah, I imagine everybody listening, working at a big company understands this. Where you have goals, you get your KPIs, and your performance reviews based on what impact you drive, if you hit your goals. And so, the incentives are focused on my goals and drive those, and I don't care about other people's goals, the company's goals- Steve Jobs had an interesting line, he says, "You don't work for your boss, you work for Apple. " I thought that was pretty good. And I heard that after I was CEO of HubSpot, but that kind of captures the sentiment. And that's how I felt about HubSpot. You work for HubSpot first and then you work for your boss. This is hard because people's performance reviews are based on their goals, KPIs, it's always like, here's what I got to drive. Other than putting posters on the wall, and this is our, just HubSpot growth above all is what matters, or our customers, I guess in your case. Is there anything tactically that was useful in helping people prioritize enterprise value?…
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