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Nicole Forsgren: recommendation

19 Oct 2025 Lenny's Podcast How to measure AI developer productivity in 2025 | Nicole Forsgren

“Now that our attention has to focus on things at certain times and it's broken up from how we used to do it, I think there's some real opportunity there to, not just rethink workflows, but rethink how we structure our days and how we structure our work.”

— Nicole Forsgren

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Nicole Forsgren
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19 Oct 2025
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Lenny's Podcast

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…We're going to get to your current thinking on the best way to do this stuff. You have a book coming out that explains how to do this well, so we're going to get to that. One thing I wanted to highlight in our last chat that we had, you highlighted that one of the biggest issues we're going to probably have with AI is trust, understanding and learning how much to trust the code that it generates, and also how much... you said this, two and a half years ago, that so much of the time is now going to be spent reviewing code versus writing code. That's exactly what I'm hearing. I think it'll be interesting to see how that impacts the way we structure work moving forward. We were talking about flow state and cognitive load. Now that our attention has to focus on things at certain times and it's broken up from how we used to do it, I think there's some real opportunity there to, not just rethink workflows, but rethink how we structure our days and how we structure our work. Can you say more about that? Just what is that? What are you thinking will be happening? Where do you think things go? What are you seeing working?…

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