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Andrej Karpathy: uncertainty

17 Oct 2025 Dwarkesh Podcast Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

“We’re really far into a territory where I don’t know what this looks like, but if I were to write sci-fi novels, they would look along the lines of not even a single entity that takes over everything, but multiple competing entities that gradually become more and more autonomous.”

— Andrej Karpathy

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Andrej Karpathy
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uncertainty
Recorded
17 Oct 2025
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

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…How come? Loss of understanding is obvious, but why loss of control? We’re really far into a territory where I don’t know what this looks like, but if I were to write sci-fi novels, they would look along the lines of not even a single entity that takes over everything, but multiple competing entities that gradually become more and more autonomous. Some of them go rogue and the others fight them off. It’s this hot pot of completely autonomous activity that we’ve delegated to. I feel it would have that flavor. It is not the fact that they are smarter than us that is resulting in the loss of control. It’s the fact that they are competing with each other, and whatever arises out of that competition leads to the loss of control.…

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