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…Is it fundamentally a heads-down versus heads-up thing? You think the heads-down smartphone way of being is fundamentally a bit antisocial, and heads-up is a more engaged, connected way of being? I think that's one part of it. But I also think if you want to build a computer or design a computer that actually understands the world around you, fundamentally, it has to be out of your pocket. Ideally, because most of our human sensors for understanding the world are on our head, I think that to me is a really good fit for our glasses technology, in terms of the way that we can architect a computer that actually brings people together and fits better into their lives. I feel like one thing that sometimes happens in the early stages of a new tech paradigm is that there's a lot of heterogeneity, and people think there'll be a lot of specialization, and then it all collapses. In the very early days of smartphones, like go back to '05, '06, it's like, "Oh, you'll have like the BlackBerry with the keyboard for people doing a lot of emailing." You remember like the Nokia N-Gage, that was like almost a PlayStation PSP-type gaming platform. There was this view that you should have all these different types of smartphones. Then everything collapsed into just the single iPhone/Android form factor, and there's just going to be a big touchscreen, and that's it. That's the only modality. Do you think something similar happens with Specs, where right now there is full VR, as you say, there's like smart glasses, the very lightweight version, and then there's your Specs which are kind of between those two. Do you think full VR, like Apple Vision Pro, has a place in five or 10 years, or do you think everything just collapses into this form factor?…

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