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5 Mar 2026 Cheeky Pint Garrett Langley of Flock Safety on building technology to solve crime
“Some people get pushed in the wrong direction, and that's what we have to stop. It's like, as a business, we don't… While we're proud of the impact, making a million arrests, it's actually quite disheartening because that means a million people will now have to go through the criminal justice system, which doesn't work that well.”
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…So these highly-effective cities. What effect does it… What happens to the criminals? Does it shift it to other localities? And you need to… It's like disease eradication, you ultimately need to do kind of enough to blanket it, to snuff it out. Because if just one municipality does it, it'll shift to a local municipality. Does it within that municipality, people just go to, something non-criminal. I'm curious, what are the effects of one municipality getting really good? There's two phases. The first phase, you're spot on. People, they just change cities. It's like when San Francisco started adopting Flock, Oakland crime went up. So then Oakland needed to adopt Flock, and now a couple of false starts, now that it's fully going. They will have the same, but first is the shift. And then you're right. People don't… The majority of criminals, let's call it 99% of criminals, are not evil people. They're not. Evil is a random act of violence, and that is exceptionally rare. It's all opportunism. You and I were fortunate enough to be born in a family, in a social construct that we could go build great companies, but not everyone had that chance. Some people get pushed in the wrong direction, and that's what we have to stop. It's like, as a business, we don't… While we're proud of the impact, making a million arrests, it's actually quite disheartening because that means a million people will now have to go through the criminal justice system, which doesn't work that well. There's a million victims. It's bad in every single way. It's also crazy expensive as a society to jail that many people. It's a double negative bottom line where it's costly and prohibitive that they'll probably never reenter society, so we're much more focused on the preventative mechanisms of how do you convince someone this is not a good lifestyle, this is not a long-term plan. Eventually, what you will see is they will go get jobs. These are functional members of society. They can be functional members. We should push them in that direction. What kind of crime is on the increase?…
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