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Lex Fridman: belief

11 Nov 2024 Lex Fridman Podcast #452 – Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

“See, I think as these models become better and better conversation and become smarter, social engineer becomes a threat too because they could start being very convincing to the engineers inside companies.”

— Lex Fridman

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Lex Fridman
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11 Nov 2024
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Lex Fridman Podcast

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…Yeah. Of course, you can hook up the mechanistic interpretability to the model itself, but then you’ve lost it as a reliable indicator of the model state. There are a bunch of exotic ways you can think of that it might also not be reliable, like if the model gets smart enough that it can jump computers and read the code where you’re looking at its internal state. We’ve thought about some of those. I think they’re exotic enough. There are ways to render them unlikely. But yeah, generally, you want to preserve mechanistic interpretability as a verification set or test set that’s separate from the training process of the model. See, I think as these models become better and better conversation and become smarter, social engineer becomes a threat too because they could start being very convincing to the engineers inside companies. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We’ve seen lots of examples of demagoguery in our life from humans, and there’s a concern that models could do that as well.…

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