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Nathan Lambert: belief

1 Feb 2026 Lex Fridman Podcast #490 – State of AI in 2026: LLMs, Coding, Scaling Laws, China, Agents, GPUs, AGI

“I think that if you’re doing a PhD, you could also be like, “It’s too risky to work in language models.”

— Nathan Lambert

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Nathan Lambert
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belief
Recorded
1 Feb 2026
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

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…But what about developing totally novel ideas? This is a trade-off. I think that if you’re doing a PhD, you could also be like, “It’s too risky to work in language models. I’m going way longer term,” which is like— —what is the thing that’s going to define language model development in 10 years? Which I think that I end up being a person that’s pretty practical. I mean, I went to my PhD where it was like, “I got into Berkeley. Worst case, I get a master’s, and then I go work in tech.” And so I’m very practical about it. The life afforded to people to work at these AI companies, the amount of… OpenAI’s average compensation is over a million dollars in stock a year per employee. For any normal person in the US, getting into this AI lab is transformative for your life. So I’m pretty practical about it— —there’s still a lot of upward mobility working in language models if you’re focused. And looking at the outcomes, look at these jobs. But from a research perspective, for transformative impact and these academic awards, being the next Yann LeCun comes from not caring about language model development very much. It’s a big financial sacrifice in that case.…

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