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Aarush Selvan: belief

18 Feb 2025 Latent Space The Inventors of Deep Research

“Like some of these things, depending on how deep you want to go, you might just want to quite g thermometer versus like kick off another deeper search. And even from a UX perspective, I think the, the panel allows for this notion of, you know, not every fall up is going to take you.”

— Aarush Selvan

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Aarush Selvan
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18 Feb 2025
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Latent Space

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…It's just like an amazing editor. Like sometimes you just want to direct edit things and now Google docs also has Gemini in the side panel. So the more we can kind of help this be part of your workflow throughout the rest of the Google ecosystem, the better, right? Like, and one thing that we've noticed is people really like that button and really like exporting it. It's also a nice way to just save it permanently. And when you do export all the citations, and in fact, I can just run it now, carry over, which is also really nice. Gemini extensions is a different feature. So that is really around Gemini being able to fetch content from other Google services in order to inform the answer. So that was actually the first feature that we both worked on on the team as well. It was actually building extensions in Gemini. And so I think right now we have a bunch of different Google apps as well as I think Spotify and a couple, I don't know if we have, and Samsung apps as well. Who wants Spotify? I have this whole thing about like who wants Spotify? Who wants that in their deep research? In deep research, I think less, but like the interesting thing is like we built extensions and we didn't, we weren't really sure how people were going to use it. And a ton of people are doing really creative things with them. And a ton of people are just doing things that they loved on the Google assistant. And Spotify is like a huge, like playing music on the go was like a huge, a huge value. Oh, it controls Spotify? Yeah. It's not deep research. For deep research. Yeah. Purely use. Yeah. But this is search. Otherwise, yeah. Like you can, you can have Gemini go. Yeah. You have YouTube maps and search for flash thinking experimental with apps. The newest. Yeah. Longest model name that has been launched. But like, yeah, I think Gmail is obvious one. Yeah. The calendar is obvious one. Exactly. Those I want. Yeah. Spotify. Yeah. Fair enough. Yeah. And obviously feel free to dive in on your other work. I know you're, you're not just doing deep research, right? But you know, we're just kind of focusing on, on deep research here. I actually have asked for modifications after this first run where I was like, oh, you, you stopped. Like, I actually want you to keep going. Like what about these other things? And then continue to modify it. So it really felt like a little bit of a co-pilot type experience, but more like an experience. Yeah, we're just that much more than an agent that would be research. I thought it was pretty cool. it. So it really felt like a little bit of a co-pilot type experience, but more like an experience. Yeah, we're just that much more than an agent that would be research. I thought it was pretty cool. Yeah. One of the challenges is currently we kind of let the model decide based on your query amongst the three categories. So some, there is, there is a boundary there. Like some of these things, depending on how deep you want to go, you might just want to quite g thermometer versus like kick off another deeper search. And even from a UX perspective, I think the, the panel allows for this notion of, you know, not every fall up is going to take you. Like five minutes. Right. Right now, it doesn't do any follow-up. Does it do follow-up search? It always does?…

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