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Annie Jacobsen: belief

6 Aug 2025 Conversations with Tyler Annie Jacobsen on Nuclear War, Intelligence Operations, and Conspiracy Realities

“I think that I’m going to really insist on saying no human should have that power or have to make that decision.”

— Annie Jacobsen

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Annie Jacobsen
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Claim type
belief
Recorded
6 Aug 2025
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Conversations with Tyler

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…You didn’t expect me to be funny, or you didn’t expect that I liked Kanye West? I just didn’t expect the fantastic pop culture reference when we are talking about the possible end of the world. I think that I’m going to really insist on saying no human should have that power or have to make that decision. Which is why, even though it’s a conundrum, a puzzle, a Gordian knot, if you will — sure nuclear weapons aren’t going away tomorrow, but the movement toward disarmament makes us all safer. If that begins tomorrow or later today, the chances of the six-minute window arising reduces drastically. But as we move toward disarmament, don’t either we — or some other countries in that process — lose second-strike capability? And that makes the situation more dangerous. I’m very glad Israel has second-strike capability now, and they didn’t a few decades ago.…

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