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Patrick McKenzie: evaluation

10 Jan 2024 Conversations with Tyler Patrick McKenzie on Navigating Complex Systems

“It is possible to be a net-negative productive debt collector, and since your activity is tracked, your employer will eventually come to understand that about you. But most people who leave don’t leave because this is a job that is beyond their intellectual capability or because the script they’re given doesn’t work well, et cetera, et cetera.”

— Patrick McKenzie

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Patrick McKenzie
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evaluation
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10 Jan 2024
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Conversations with Tyler

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…You think they leave because they don’t like it? Or they leave because they’re bad at it and they’re fired? Overwhelmingly, they leave because they don’t like it. There is a production function for debt collectors in a way that there is far less of a production function for McDonald’s employees. Certainly, there are ways to be a bad McDonald’s employee, considering, are you physically capable of making a burger or not? Almost everyone who McDonald’s hires is actually physically capable of making a burger. There’s probably at least an order of magnitude difference — perhaps more — in terms of productivity of the amount of dollars collected per hour by debt collectors. It is possible to be a net-negative productive debt collector, and since your activity is tracked, your employer will eventually come to understand that about you. But most people who leave don’t leave because this is a job that is beyond their intellectual capability or because the script they’re given doesn’t work well, et cetera, et cetera. They leave because the job is soul-destroying. How did the maple syrup heists change your overall view of the world and of humanity? What’s the model update?…

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