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Lenny Rachitsky: belief

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“How does that actually work? I think the core here is just this is baked into the model.”

— Lenny Rachitsky

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Lenny Rachitsky
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belief
Recorded
20 Jul 2025
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Lenny's Podcast

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…That's right. That's right. And from a distance, it might seem quite disconnected, like how is this going to prevent X risk? But ultimately it's about the AI understanding what people want and not what they say. We don't want the Monkey Paw Scenario of the genie gives these three wishes and then you end up having everything you touch turns of gold. We want the AI to be like, oh, obviously what you really meant was this, and that's what I'm going to help you with. I think it is really quite connected. Talk a bit more about this constitutionally AI. This is essentially you bake in, here's the rules that we want you to abide by and it's values, you said it's the Geneva Human Rights Code, things like that. How does that actually work? I think the core here is just this is baked into the model. It's not something you add on top later. I'll just give a quick overview of how constitutionally AI actually works.…

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