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Nathan Lambert: belief

3 Feb 2025 Lex Fridman Podcast #459 – DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters

“I think language models are a form of AGI and all of this super powerful stuff is a next step that’s great if we get these tools.”

— Nathan Lambert

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Nathan Lambert
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belief
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3 Feb 2025
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Lex Fridman Podcast

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…… and that it’s going to take a lot of compute. This is what people, CEO or leaders of OpenAI and Anthropic talk about, is autonomous AI models, which is you give them a task and they work on it in the background. I think my personal definition of AGI is much simpler. I think language models are a form of AGI and all of this super powerful stuff is a next step that’s great if we get these tools. But a language model has so much value in so many domains that it’s a general intelligence to me. But this next step of agentic things where they’re independent and they can do tasks that aren’t in the training data is what the few-year outlook that these AI companies are driving for. I think the terminology here that Dario uses is super powerful AI. So I agree with you on the AGI. I think we already have something like that’s exceptionally impressive that Alan Turing would for sure say is AGI, but he’s referring more to something once in possession of, then you would have a significant military and geopolitical advantage over other nations. So it’s not just like you can ask it how to cook an omelet.…

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