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Published · transcript-backedChandra Janakiraman: observation
26 Jan 2025 Lenny's Podcast An operator’s guide to product strategy | Chandra Janakiraman (CPO at VRChat, ex-Meta, Headspace, Zynga)
“The reason is because Zynga had it figured out so well that I didn't actually have a need to exercise that muscle at Zynga, and we just had to come up with new games that applied that strategy.”
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- Chandra Janakiraman
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- 26 Jan 2025
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- Lenny's Podcast
Transcript context
…Sweet. Anything else along those lines with Zynga? That was in hindsight reflection, Lenny, I was pretty naive when I was there, and I realized how... And this was, in fact, what led to my blind spot when I joined Headspace from Zynga, that you even need a strategy. That's the story I said at the beginning. The reason is because Zynga had it figured out so well that I didn't actually have a need to exercise that muscle at Zynga, and we just had to come up with new games that applied that strategy. And so it was a net new muscle I had to develop when I got to Headspace. It's like that parable of the fish swimming in the water where the older fish swims by and he's like, "How's the water?" And they're like, "Hmm?" And then he leaves and he's like, "What's water?" You just don't realize what you're in. You don't realize what you're surrounded by until it's gone.…
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