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19 Sept 2025 Lex Fridman Podcast #481 – Norman Ohler: Hitler, Nazis, Drugs, WW2, Blitzkrieg, LSD, MKUltra & CIA

“I just think it’s admirable to be brave and not do things that you cannot really justify in front of your own conscience. I don’t know if I would have been so brave.”

— Norman Ohler

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Norman Ohler
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Recorded
19 Sept 2025
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Lex Fridman Podcast

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…What lessons can we learn from that about how to resist totalitarian regimes? Is there some deeper wisdom? I just think it’s admirable to be brave and not do things that you cannot really justify in front of your own conscience. I don’t know if I would have been so brave. I don’t even know, obviously, how my conscience would have been, but I’m probably more the fleeing type. Like, a lot of writers would just leave Germany. Like Thomas Mann just left Germany and lived in Pacific Palisades. And then, and then maybe write, criticize, but leave first.…

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