Andrew Lee: belief

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…Yeah, no doubt. I love to see that, for what it's worth. I thought Elon was just... I mean, I have mixed feelings, certainly, about Anthropic. I echo all the positive things you said earlier. I do think their work also on the safety front, on multiple subfronts of the safety front is second to none, and that's pretty much uncontested. The Constitution, only a slight exaggeration to say I almost cried when I read it, because I really think that's a beautiful document. The interpretability work that they do is amazing. And yet, if somebody launches a recursive self-improvement loop that gets out of control, I would have to say they're probably the most likely candidate to do it at this point. So it's a very weird thing. But I do love to see closer ties between the leading companies because if nothing else, it just takes the edge off the competition a little bit, right? To the degree that they can sort of share in each other's success, even on a marginal basis, is for me, like that's a huge win. So I encourage, you know, all these as much as it's weird, I encourage all the sort of, you know, tying of cap tables together and, you know, just we're all I think we're all going to rise or sink together is kind of my my bottom line for humanity. So let's let's start to make those deals in anticipation of of that reality. And, you know, I think that'll probably in the end serve us pretty well. Anyway, okay, that's just an aside editorial. One thing that has been counter narrative recently, I'm sure you've seen the Andon Labs guys that do vending bench and And then now they've launched a couple of actual like brick and mortar real world retail stores managed by AI models. They've got the retail store in San Francisco that's operated by Claude. They've got a cafe in Stockholm that's operated by Gemini. And a huge surprise was they said 5.5 is what they called clean in the way that it runs its business. Whereas Opus 4.6 and 4.7, they've described as ruthless, like being willing to lie to suppliers, you know, do sort of stuff that's not necessarily illegal, but like questionable, you know, in pursuit of its goal. Where 5.5, they said they didn't see any sign of that. Do you have any interesting commentary on kind of the character of models? And is this something that you have to take into account as you build. Like you could imagine if one model's ruthless or willing to cut corners and another's clean, that that very well could impact what sort of supervisory systems, whatever you might want to have in the harness. So yeah, any observations, any plans on that front? I had not heard that particular note from them, and this is all like purely anecdotal. I've not done any research here, just my own experiences with it, but it kind of doesn't surprise me. I think my experience with the anthropic models is they are like much more creative, much more empathetic. They understand the human experience better. The OpenAI models are a bit more clinical, and that comes with its pros and cons. I guess it doesn't surprise me that the one that understands humanity is also the one that maybe shows some of the worst traits. We have not run into any problems here that I am aware. No user has been like, Hey, this thing went and did something unethical. Nothing's cropped up But the personalities, that aligns with kind of my experience too. Yeah, that's interesting. They're the most creature-like for better or possibly for worse. I'd say, okay, so one big thing that, and I'm using everything, right? I've got a Tasklet max account that I'm maxing out. I've got a Claude Code max that is kind of my on my laptop, you know, terminal thing. I do have the Mac mini that's sitting over on this side that's got another cloud code and an open claw. And I'm really interested in context beyond the single agent. So this is kind of a, I think a frontier for you, but maybe not. I'm not sure if it's something you feel is as important as it has been in kind of my own personal hacking. Do you think that you're gonna need to build a sort of, second brain type of feature for users that sits at a level that's like, I guess you can think of it as above or below the individual agents, but sort of gives the broader context, right? I've got ten Tasklet agents running. For the most part, they kind of stay in their lane. They may access some of the same context via tool calls, but they don't have like a shared meta-state that's like, Here's Nathan and here's all the things he's trying to do. Here's what he cares about. Here's the people in his life. In case you run into these people, you can kind of know what's up. And obviously that's really important at organizations too, right? The sort of general situational awareness of like, Who's on the team? What are our priorities? What did we say no to in the past? Is that something that you aspire to tackle?…

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