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Agnes Callard: belief

11 Apr 2018 Conversations with Tyler Agnes Callard on the Theory of Everything

“I think that, actually, all aspirants are going to be a little bit jerky. It’ll be characteristic of an aspirant that they’re defective, and so the fact that Stephen Dedalus doesn’t instantiate his own ideals is a sign that he is an aspirant.”

— Agnes Callard

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Speaker
Agnes Callard
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Claim type
belief
Recorded
11 Apr 2018
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

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…If I think of Stephen Dedalus, the main character in James Joyce’s A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, that’s often considered a classic novel of aspiration. He seems to me like a jerk. He’s visiting all these prostitutes. He’s misogynistic toward women, somewhat uncaring toward his family, wallowing in a kind of Irish misery. In a way, he’s maturing, but it seems to me, he’s moving from being one kind of jerk to another kind of jerk. Can aspiration be the province of jerks, even if it cannot be of gangsters? I think that, actually, all aspirants are going to be a little bit jerky. It’ll be characteristic of an aspirant that they’re defective, and so the fact that Stephen Dedalus doesn’t instantiate his own ideals is a sign that he is an aspirant. The thing is that Stephen’s aspirations pull him away from other people, rather than towards them, and so it’s not actually that clear to me that his jerkiness gets sort of ameliorated over the course of the novel. His aspirations are aesthetic, but I think that . . . He says.…

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