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Published · transcript-backedNathan Lambert: belief
3 Feb 2025 Lex Fridman Podcast #459 – DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters
“I think their products have long since been banned in China, and I respect saying it directly.”
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- Nathan Lambert
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- belief
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- 3 Feb 2025
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- Lex Fridman Podcast
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…Yeah. You sent me something that Mark Zuckerberg mentioned on the earnings call. He said that, “I think in light of some of the recent news, the new competitor DeepSeek from China, I think it’s one of the things that we’re talking about is there’s going to be an open-source standard globally. And I think for our kind of national advantage, it’s important that it’s an American standard, so we take that seriously. We want to build the AI system that people around the world are using. And I think that, if anything, some of the recent news has only strengthened our conviction that this is the right thing to be focused on.” So yeah, open-sourcing. Mark Zuckerberg is not new to having American values and how he presents his company’s trajectory. I think their products have long since been banned in China, and I respect saying it directly. And there’s an interesting aspect of just because it’s open-weights or open-source doesn’t mean it can’t be subverted, right? There have been many open source software bugs that have been… For example, there was a Linux bug that was found after 10 years, which was clearly a back door because somebody was like, “Why is this taking half a second to load?”…
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