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Michael Levin: belief

30 Nov 2025 Lex Fridman Podcast #486 – Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

“For the interface. So if you could… So here’s my prediction for a Star Trek transporter: For whatever reason, right now, your brain and body are very attuned and attractive to a particular pattern, which is your set of psychological propensities.”

— Michael Levin

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Michael Levin
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belief
Recorded
30 Nov 2025
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

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…Is your guess, your gut is that that process, if possible, is different than copying? Like, it looks more like creating a new thing versus copying. For the interface. So if you could… So here’s my prediction for a Star Trek transporter: For whatever reason, right now, your brain and body are very attuned and attractive to a particular pattern, which is your set of psychological propensities. If we could rebuild that exact same thing somewhere else, I don’t see any reason why that same pattern wouldn’t come through it the same way it comes through this one. That would be a guess, you know? So I think what you will be copying is the physical interface, and hoping to maintain whatever it is about that interface that was appropriate for that pattern. We don’t really know what that is at this point. So when we’ve been talking about mind, in this particular case, it’s the most important to me because I’m a human. Does self come along with that? Does the feeling, like, this mind belongs to me? Does that come along with all minds? The subjective… Not the subjective experience. The subjective experience is important too, consciousness, but like the ownership.…

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