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Annie Jacobsen: uncertainty

6 Aug 2025 Conversations with Tyler Annie Jacobsen on Nuclear War, Intelligence Operations, and Conspiracy Realities

“I would have to really put my mind on that scenario to discern what the outcome would be. I don’t know necessarily if America would get involved.”

— Annie Jacobsen

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Annie Jacobsen
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6 Aug 2025
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Conversations with Tyler

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…— India would retaliate and take out equivalent parts of Pakistan, and then China would twist Pakistan’s arm, and we and Russia would twist India’s arm. I think that would be the end of it. It would be terrible. Millions of people would die, but I don’t think it would escalate beyond that. Is that wrong? What I just said was, what I am aware of and wrote the book about is, what happens if the United States gets involved? I would have to really put my mind on that scenario to discern what the outcome would be. I don’t know necessarily if America would get involved. It doesn’t seem to me that there would be a reason. Now, what I am familiar with is understanding the effects of, let’s say, a 200-nuclear-weapons exchange between those two nuclear-armed countries, and what would happen to the soot that would loft into the atmosphere and block out the sun, impacting all of us. That’s a different conversation. But that’s why we would get involved. It’s one reason of many, right?…

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