Evidence receipt / belief
Published · transcript-backedDrew Houston: belief
9 Jan 2025 Lenny's Podcast Behind the founder: Drew Houston (Dropbox)
“I think there's benefits to that, but what I've grown to appreciate a lot more is over time is this thing or the experience and the journey of starting a company can really be of forge for a better character or there's transfer.”
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- Drew Houston
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- belief
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- 9 Jan 2025
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- Lenny's Podcast
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…And it makes me think about, as you're talking, people think about product market fit and something, a lesson from this journey is just like product market fit is not a binary. You will have it now. You've got it and you have it and will last forever. It's constantly being broken by other people or if there's something you've discovered that is a big market. And maybe final reflection on the story you've shared things that might be helpful to people, just the journey you've been on that might be helpful to founders who are going through this right now or will probably go through this. I think it's important to remember we're all really lucky to be able to do this kind of work. And the things that I got out of... When I was 18, the things I thought I would get out of starting company would've been the things you would think. It'd be like, oh, I'll be really well-known or really rich or build these awesome things. I think there's benefits to that, but what I've grown to appreciate a lot more is over time is this thing or the experience and the journey of starting a company can really be of forge for a better character or there's transfer. A lot of what you learn here is transferable in many different domains. I just had a little kid, Charlie, he's one-year-old, so I know we're both in new dad mode, but I'm like, it's made me a better husband, it'll make me a better father, made me a better person. And then, I just say, listen, there's no easy button where things are just up to the right and so don't look for one and don't feel bad if things are difficult. But ultimately, one of the biggest surprises about being able to spend time with all these interesting people and founder CEOs who've created these iconic companies is at the end of the day, they do it because they love it. And so, I think learning to decouple... That doesn't mean they're always having a good time at all. Most of them use metaphors like Jensen or Eli, like chewing broken glass, staring into the abyss, and yet for a lot of these people, there's at the end of the day, nothing they'd rather do. So I think finding the gun in that. I'm very excited to follow the next chapter of your journey. I am really thankful that you shared these stories. I think this is going to be helpful to a lot of people. I think this is a story that people study for a long time because it's common and not talked about much. Drew, thank you so much for being here. For folks that want to maybe check out what you're building, anything you want to share, where should they go?…
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