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Holden Karnofsky: belief

3 Jan 2023 Dwarkesh Podcast Holden Karnofsky — History's most important century

“I think we want to treat each hire as something that we only do because we had a really good reason to.”

— Holden Karnofsky

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Speaker
Holden Karnofsky
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Claim type
belief
Recorded
3 Jan 2023
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

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…Okay yeah, people. It seems odd to say that in the organization you have the most experience with, your inside view is that more stakeholders would be bad–– but overall it's been a net zero or positive. Well, it's not clear – we are growing. We're bigger than we were a year ago and we'll be bigger in a year. So it's definitely not true that I’m trying to minimize the size of the company. We're growing, but I think we want to watch it. I think we want to treat each hire as something that we only do because we had a really good reason to. I think there are some companies that may have more to gain from being 10,000 people. I don't think we'll ever be 10,000 people. Right. Now your written career advice emphasizes building aptitudes and specializing, but when I look at your career––, it's all over the place, right? We were just talking about it at the beginning of the interview. You started off in GiveWell, then you were working at Open Philanthropy and now you're forecasting AI. So how do you think about this kind of thing? Are you specializing? What's going on here?…

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