Evidence receipt / belief
Published · transcript-backedDean Ball: belief
20 Jun 2026 The Cognitive Revolution Dean Ball, on Joining OpenAI: New Power Centers, Frontier AI Policy, & Main Character Energy
“Maybe a couple people who matter will read it, and that'll influence them. But in the end, I think you really wanna be getting your hands dirty and shaping some of these decision, helping shape some of these decisions with researchers, with the executive team, with many other people.”
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- 20 Jun 2026
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…Safe to say they're training another model, yeah? Yeah, safe to say they're, they've probably got some... And the internal deployments of these models, fundamentally, until we have a robust system of supervision and auditing or independent verification, the way the government thinks about how to, the regulatory me- like mechanically speaking, all government regulations that they're, that the states think about or that the s- the governments think about is triggered by public release, public deployment. But I think a lot of the really important decisions are gonna be made with respect to internal deployments. And there's gonna be a combination of objective determinations that you're gonna wanna make, and also probably just some gut calls, some judgment calls about, you know, what's, what does recursive self-improvement mean ultimately, right? What does it mean? How should we be thinking about it? Um, and again, it's just very hard to... I couldn't, I can ponder that stuff in the abstract without any inter- inside knowledge, and I can write about it on my Substack, and I've done a little bit of that. And maybe that'll influence some people. Maybe a couple people who matter will read it, and that'll influence them. But in the end, I think you really wanna be getting your hands dirty and shaping some of these decision, helping shape some of these decisions with researchers, with the executive team, with many other people. I wanna get into more details on both-…
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