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Annie Jacobsen: disagreement

6 Aug 2025 Conversations with Tyler Annie Jacobsen on Nuclear War, Intelligence Operations, and Conspiracy Realities

“I disagree with the nomenclature because I think of a conspiracy in legal terms.”

— Annie Jacobsen

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Annie Jacobsen
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disagreement
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6 Aug 2025
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Conversations with Tyler

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…Do you think people are overly inclined to believe in conspiracy theories? Just as we used to attribute the weather to gods, we anthropomorphize many things. It’s easier to think in terms of the people we don’t like as plotting against us rather than things being a series of accidents. I think we overly resort to conspiracy theorizing. Do you agree or disagree? I disagree with the nomenclature because I think of a conspiracy in legal terms. It’s like two or more people plotting something. That is a word that exists in my brain in that lane. The other lane that you’re talking about, to me, is beliefs. If you really wanted to get flowery with your language, you could say crazy beliefs. You could attach any kind of poetic word to it, which I would, because it seems to me to fall more into the category of desire. Of all the parts of government you’ve had contact with, which do you think is the best run?…

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