Andrew ‘Boz’ Bosworth: evaluation

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And so a 2x linear scaling advantage doesn't buy you as much as you might expect. when you're trying to scale resolution. And so that was step one. And then, but we still assumed at that price point, you know, with their legendary attention to detail and polish, they probably, you know, produce a great product. And the line that I said, actually on my own podcast with Matthew Ball a week ago was like, look, I was prepared to come to market and say, we have the best value headset. Like, if you want an outstanding, best possible headset for the money, we've got it. It's the Quest 3. And I was so thrilled when I tried the AVP next to Mark. We were like, no, no, no. We think we have the actual best headset. Now, we're not saying it's the best at all things. If you're sitting still and watching a movie in high-res movie, yep, Apple Vision Pro is really great. It's really great. The resolution shines. The way they've tuned the pass-through shines if you're stationary and looking straight ahead. And they've done some really nice things with the UI. It's one of these things that we do get annoyed about. It's a mild aside. We get a little bit annoyed about it as product people. And this happens to all of us. It happens to Apple. It happens to Google. It happens to us. We have a bunch of internal things we've been playing with. which will at some point ship, and we will be accused of having stolen them when we actually did not steal them. If you want, you can go see my Quora answer on the history of the like button, where this happened previously, where we had built the like button internally before it was launched elsewhere. Anyways, it's a whole thing. So this happens in our industry a lot, and I really shouldn't care as much. It's a little bit of my ego peeking through, which I should control and tamp down by being responsible. But yeah, so the beautiful UI polishes, they did a tremendous job with eye tracking. One of the things that's interesting about the eye tracking is To do it the way they've done it, that's why you have to have the prescription inserts. So it doesn't support your glasses. You have to get prescription inserts. They're kind of expensive. And they can shoot the cameras that track your eyes through the lens as well as the light around it. Ours go from the side on the Quest Pro. And that allows you to wear corrective lenses. And so different choices like that have trade-offs, but it's still cool. It's great that they got that in there. At the same time, our hand tracking is better. at allows you to wear corrective lenses. And so different choices like that have trade-offs, but it's still cool. It's great that they got that in there. At the same time, our hand tracking is better. Obviously, the app library we knew was going to be better. That's not totally fair to them. They've just launched and they have small volume still. But I just find the comfort, the thing that really got me the most, the field of view is really small on the Apple Vision Pro. And some people are characterizing it incorrectly on the internet. They're doing a characterization up close to the lens. Once you factor in the eye relief, the distance between where the lenses are and where your eyeball is, their field of view gets pretty narrow for almost all faces. Relative to ours, which I find distracting, their displays are much dimmer than ours. And I find the motion blur really distracting when I'm in mixed reality use cases. And as I mentioned earlier in the podcast, I'm a huge mixed reality buff. I'm a huge fan of that potential for exactly the same reason that they are, by the way, which I think hands in mixed reality make it feel much more accessible to more people. I'm pretty glad we have the controller in our set, though, because it really expands what you can do. And we don't just operate our computers with just one thing. We have a keyboard and we have a mouse. We do multiple modalities all the time. So I really feel like the comfort, the lack of persistence and motion blur in our pass-through, the brightness of our displays. I was like, oh man, if you gave me one to take, I would take Quest 3. Now, people have rightly said, That's a pretty biased position. Of course it is. Go get your own opinion. But what kills me is most people haven't done that. They have not tried the Quest 3. That's what kills me the most. If you go and try Quest 3, ask yourself if you'd rather have seven of those, one for you and six of your best friends, or one Apple Vision Pro. I'm sure the answer isn't Quest 3 for every person. There are people for whom there are use cases that really fit their life. The Apple Vision Pro, I'm cool with it. But people don't even know that the Quest 3, you can do remote desktop. You can do it both through an app called Remote Desktop, which is very popular, or you can go into workrooms and you can have three monitors surrounding you streamed from your machine. I think some of this is just like people have not even done the work. They haven't even tried it. So I welcome all of you who think I am biased to prove one way or the other what you think. But don't do it without putting the Quest 3 on and giving it through its paces because it's a pretty great device. And you can do a lot with $3,000 extra. How did they get away with that, by the way? We launched a headset that was like $1,299 and people lost their minds about it. And they're like, ah, $3,500 is fine. This is fine. No one cares. I don't know. It says, you know, but fairness is too much to ask. I don't care about that. Apple has earned the great brand they've built. They truly have. I think it's tremendous. And I certainly celebrate a large number of Apple products.…

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