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Jeff Holmes: belief

30 Dec 2020 Conversations with Tyler Conversations with Tyler 2020 Retrospective

“Then I would say, weirdly, the episode performed decently, but John McWhorter — as I was looking through the stats, I was surprised.”

— Jeff Holmes

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Jeff Holmes
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belief
Recorded
30 Dec 2020
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Conversations with Tyler

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…Well, I don’t even know how any of them are rated. I thought the Alex Ross episode was really good. I suspect Wagner fans rate it pretty highly, but there aren’t so many of them, so that’s one of my picks for underrated. Jimmy Wales — I’m not sure it’s underrated, but I think precisely because he’s been successful and moderate and reasonable, Twitter doesn’t go crazy over him one way or another. My guess is that will do very well in the long run, but in the short run, it was not like a super social media–driven thing because he is not insane. I would name that as underrated. Those would be the two picks that come to mind right away, but maybe you can tell me. I think if you look at who underperformed, you clearly see a bit of a, you might call it a liberal arts bias. When we have guests that are less known, (A), and (B), that they’re talking about music or fiction, that’s when you tend to see a dip. Then I would say, weirdly, the episode performed decently, but John McWhorter — as I was looking through the stats, I was surprised. I would say he underperformed. I would say — to the extent that that tells you something about how people rated it — then I would say John McWhorter, underrated. Here’s what I suspect went on there. He is so available in the podcast forum that you don’t need to come to us. Until very recently, Adam Tooze was quite underexposed in the podcast forum, and that’s being remedied for the better. We were the go-to Adam Tooze place.…

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