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Sholto Douglas: belief

28 Mar 2024 Dwarkesh Podcast Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken — How LLMs actually think

“I think there are a number of people who are really, really critical. If you took them out then the performance of the program would be dramatically impacted.”

— Sholto Douglas

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Sholto Douglas
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belief
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28 Mar 2024
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

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…Some rapid fire. What is the bus factor for Gemini? I think there are a number of people who are really, really critical. If you took them out then the performance of the program would be dramatically impacted. This is both on modeling/making decisions about what to actually do and importantly on the infrastructure side of the things. It's just the stack of complexity builds, particularly when someone like Google has so much vertical integration. When you have people who are experts, they become quite important. Although I think it's an interesting note about the field that people like you can get in and in a year or so you're making important contributions. Especially with Anthropic, but many different labs have specialized in hiring total outsiders, physicists or whatever. You just get them up to speed and they're making important contributions. I feel like you couldn't do this in a bio lab or something. It's an interesting note on the state of the field.…

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