Evidence receipt / evaluation
Published · transcript-backedRonny Kohavi: evaluation
27 Jul 2023 Lenny's Podcast The ultimate guide to A/B testing | Ronny Kohavi (Airbnb, Microsoft, Amazon)
“I think one of the things that I will say at Airbnb is the analysis was relatively weak, and so lots of data scientists were hired to be able to compensate for the fact that the platform didn't do enough.”
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- 27 Jul 2023
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…That's a great tip. Along these same lines, I know you're a big fan of platforms and building a platform to run experiments, versus just one-off experiments. Can you just talk briefly about that to give people a sense of where they probably should be going with their experimentation approach? Yeah, so I think the motivation is to bring the marginal cost of experiments down to zero. So the more you self-service, go to a website, set up your experiment, define your targets, define the metrics that you want, right? People don't appreciate that the number of metrics starts to grow really fast if you're doing things right. At Bing, you could define 10,000 metrics that you wanted to be in your scorecard. Big numbers. So it was so big, and people said it's computationally inefficient. We broke them into templates so that if you were launching a UI experiment, you would get this set of 2,000. If you were doing a revenue experiment, you would get this set of 2,000. So the point was build a platform that can quickly allow you to set up and run an experiment, and then analyze it. I think one of the things that I will say at Airbnb is the analysis was relatively weak, and so lots of data scientists were hired to be able to compensate for the fact that the platform didn't do enough. And this happens in other organizations too, where there's this trade-off. If you're building a good platform, invest in it so that more and more automation will allow people to look at the analysis, without the need to involve a data scientist. We published a paper. Again, I'll give it in the notes with this nice matrix of six axes, and how you move from crawl, to walk, to run, to fly, and what you need to build on those six axes. So one of the things that I do sometimes when I consult is I go into the org and say, "Where do you think you are on these six axes?" And that should be the guidance for what are the things you need to do next. This is going to be the most epic show notes episode we've had yet. Maybe a last question. We talked about how important trust is to running experiments, and how even though people talk about speed, trust ends up being most important. Still, I want to ask you about speed. Is there anything you recommend for helping people run experiments faster and get results more quickly that they can implement?…
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