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12 Feb 2025 Dwarkesh Podcast Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer — 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI
“I really like Rich Sutton's paper that he wrote about the Bitter Lesson and the Bitter Lesson effectively is this nice one-page paper but the essence of it is you can try lots of approaches, but the two techniques that are incredibly effective are learning and search.”
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…Does it look more like search, or does it look more like just keeping going in the linear direction for a longer time? I really like Rich Sutton's paper that he wrote about the Bitter Lesson and the Bitter Lesson effectively is this nice one-page paper but the essence of it is you can try lots of approaches, but the two techniques that are incredibly effective are learning and search. You can apply and scale those algorithmically or computationally, and you often will then get better results than any other kind of approach you can apply it to a pretty broad variety of problems. Search has got to be part of the solution to spending more inference time. Maybe you explore a few different ways of solving this problem, and that one didn't work, but this one worked better. I'm going to explore that a bit more. How does this change your plans for future data center planning and so forth? Where can this kind of search be done asynchronously? Does it have to be online, offline? How does that change how big of a campus you need and those kinds of considerations?…
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