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Noam Shazeer: belief

12 Feb 2025 Dwarkesh Podcast Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer — 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

“We're working out the algorithms as we speak. So I believe we'll see better and better solutions to this as these many more than 10,000 researchers are hacking at it, many of them at Google.”

— Noam Shazeer

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Noam Shazeer
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belief
Recorded
12 Feb 2025
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Dwarkesh Podcast

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…Interesting. So are there any impediments to taking inference time, like having some way in which you can just linearly scale up inference time compute? Or is this basically a problem that's sort of solved, and we know how to throw 100x compute, 1000x compute, and get correspondingly better results? We're working out the algorithms as we speak. So I believe we'll see better and better solutions to this as these many more than 10,000 researchers are hacking at it, many of them at Google. I think we do see some examples in our own experimental work of things where if you apply more inference time compute, the answers are better than if you just apply 10x, you can get better answers than x amount of computed inference time. And that seems useful and important. But I think what we would like is when you apply 10x to get even a bigger improvement in the quality of the answers than we're getting today. And so that's about designing new algorithms, trying new approaches, figuring out how best to spend that 10x instead of x to improve things.…

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