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Dylan Patel: belief

3 Feb 2025 Lex Fridman Podcast #459 – DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters

“I think the unsung heroes are the cooling in electrical systems which are just glossed over.”

— Dylan Patel

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Speaker
Dylan Patel
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belief
Recorded
3 Feb 2025
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

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…And it’s incredible. I mean, I visited with Elon. Just the teams and the rate of innovation there is insane. My sense is that nobody’s ever done anything of this scale, and nobody has certainly ever done anything of this scale at the rate that xAI is doing. So, they’re figuring out… I was sitting in on all of these meetings where they’re brainstorming. It’s insane. It’s exciting because they’re trying to figure out what the bottlenecks are, how to remove the bottlenecks, how to make sure that… There’s just so many really cool things about putting together a data center because everything has to work. The people that do the sys admin, the machine learning and all of that is the exciting thing, so on. But really, the people that run everything are the folks that know the low-level software and hardware that runs everything, the networking, all of that. So, you have to make sure you have procedures that test everything. I think they’re using ethernet. I don’t know how they’re doing the networking, but- They’re using NVIDIA Spectrum-X Ethernet. I think the unsung heroes are the cooling in electrical systems which are just glossed over. Yeah, exactly.…

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