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Asha Sharma: belief

28 Aug 2025 Lenny's Podcast How 80,000 companies build with AI: products as organisms, the death of org charts, and why agents will outnumber employees by 2026 | Asha Sharma (CVP of AI Platform at Microsoft)

“Look, I think that software as a primitive is changing and the artifact inside of it is a model alongside the software components itself.”

— Asha Sharma

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Asha Sharma
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belief
Recorded
28 Aug 2025
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

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…And so is this thesis that we're moving towards product as organism, is this basically for model companies or is this also true for, I don't know, SaaS businesses and tools and user tools? Look, I think that software as a primitive is changing and the artifact inside of it is a model alongside the software components itself. And so in many ways I think that software products will all be model forward products, if you will. This reminds me what I just had Nick Turley on the podcast who we were talking about before we started recording head of ChatGPT and I was asking just like how much does ChatGPT change with GPT-5 coming out, and he's just like, "It's the same thing, they're the same product. It's just the model tells us what to do in the product of ChatGPT." And it makes me think about something else of just you would think why can't just GPT-5 build its own user interface just like as you use it, it just evolve. It's sort of what it's doing with Canvas and all these things, but that's another way I think about when you talk about this idea of product as organism is the product, the UX can shift based on how you're using it and evolve automatically without having product teams have to do anything.…

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